DvZ Gold 1.8.1 Changelog


[Ref] Hedgehogs4Me Revered Posts: 874 Cookies: +746 Level 6 LEVEL 6 Revered	~~ Gold 1.8.1 ~~ [=] Game ending should always give points now, even when it's because the tables broke. [=] Giant is slightly more common [=] Reversed the monster count curve, took the monster count down a bit, and nerfed low monster count effects [] Stopped tailors from breeding cows [] Knight's sapling quest should now take multiple types of saplings and remove saplings from inventories correctly [] Enderman's stick should no longer cause NullPointers when an enderman relogs [] Knights should now find that the center of their placed bunker is about where they're standing. [] Bakers' creations that don't fit in the inventory now go in the nexus like Alchemists and Tailors [] Cake amounts fixed (was a few high) [=] Dragon's fire now only explodes or causes fires if certain conditions are met, so AntiFire plugin can be removed [] Falling blocks now can't turn into regular blocks in restricted areas (they get deleted instead) [+] Bakers can now find apples [+] Alchemists can turn apples golden, with a 1/4 chance of getting a notch apple [=] Creeper perk that spawns creepers nerfed from 3 creepers to 2 creepers. I may even make it leveled later. [] Silverfish can now only lay eggs a certain distance away from the shrine. Don't worry, it's a pretty short distance. [+] Items other than weapons and armour (sorry, I'm not sneakily adding back superenchanting!) will automatically stack up to 16 every so often in the nexus (arrows up to 64) [] Removed early zombification glitch [] Bakers can no longer break the farm [=] Air in mines no longer turns into other things [+] Blacksmiths' and Alchemists' special blocks (except workbenches because they can be mass-produced) are now completely private! [=] Slightly nerfed spider mana regen rate [] Fixed 134's hilarious regen glitch [] Quest giants and kittens no longer despawn (they have names!) [+] Monsters spawn now has a cool structure thingy [=] Some perks are a bit cheaper [] Fixed early suicide glitch [=] Made armour gems more expensive [=] Legendary weapon gems are more rare but better [=] Legendary gems have a 1/3 chance of spawning a copy of themselves in the nexus [=] Trees no longer drop apples and drop saplings less often. [=] Knight sapling quest only requires 1 sapling. [=] Bakers now have a chance to make infinite beef [] Pumpkin pies are no longer hilarious [+] 2 new perks: [Dwarf/General/Horse Armour] and [Dwarf/Baker/Chance to Give Players Speed] (I forgot to add them before) [=] Mining is better [] Disguising name above head thing with some classes fixed [=] Changed knight's potion effect thing a bit [] Don't let me see your booties drop (silverfish no longer drop booties, and a few other mobs no longer drop things) [] Removing null mobs should no longer cause ConcurrentModificationExceptions [+] Mods have a crazy ban/kick/mute gui [+] Builders now get a crafting table to craft stairs and stuff. Mining classes get ladders. Yay! [+] Knight books are less cluttered and cooler [] Dwarves will never be denied the ability to make a roof based on locations of farms/mines/such [=] Builders only get teleported on monster release if they're making a sneaky high base (there's no fall damage) [] Thing that checks a builder's items when he gets more blocks is more precise [] Picking up fire now removes the fire Notes on my to-do list for future updates: Make silverfish unable to break monster spawn Book kick for griefing cake not infinite? Make monsters face the right direction upon spawning Make witch anvils still work within bad areas Give mob zombies feather falling? witch blocks thing still destroys shrine blocks? Breaking enchanting table, most kills as both, etc get points? (plus a couple small bugs I probably shouldn't spread around or they'll get exploited) Topics of discussion: - Which is more important, getting the other stuff perfect or doing fancy stuff like making the server not have to restart to start a new game? - Is the monster count better? What should be changed about it? - What perks would you like to see added (no donator features, please, and keep 'em somewhat balanced)? EDIT: ~~ Gold 1.8.1.1 ~~ [] Attempting to fix furnace / brewing stand protection and such, plus fixing interact events with blacksmith and alchemist [] Waiting and dead no longer lose hunger [] Leather armour cannot be crafted. Lol. [] Mine block spreading is slightly more controlled [] The item in your hand doesn't come with you when you switch classes [] Silverfish can no longer break monster spawn [] Witches should similarly no longer cause enormous awful problems [] Trees can be destroyed inside monster spawn. Mojang, y u world gen liek dis :( [] Witch anvils can now land anywhere and not get instantly destroyed because of griefing stuff [] Spectators can put portals and enchanting tables in their inventories now [] Things that shouldn't be anvilled now can't be anvilled [] Stone bricks and related items cannot be placed in chests Posted Jul 27, 14 · OP · Last edited Jul 29, 14 Like x 6 x 6 List Undo
Dan497 Posts: 615 Cookies: +289 Level 5 LEVEL 5 Untagged users	Your to-do list seems to bring improvements, and all of those would be good to introduce. I love this update! Its fixed all the glitches that I know, and added much more. Obviously there will be more glitches to find. [Ref] Hedgehogs4Me wrote: - Which is more important, getting the other stuff perfect or doing fancy stuff like making the server not have to restart to start a new game? - Is the monster count better? What should be changed about it? - What perks would you like to see added (no donator features, please, and keep 'em somewhat balanced)? For the first one, I think having fancy stuff like not having the server restart would delight other players, because its cleaner, the next game could start faster, and seems more practical to have them tp'ed to the waitspawn instead of being kicked for restart. I need to play more to answer the second one, but the improvements may have sorted it from what I see. For the third one, I will think of more things over time. Some mobs don't actually have buy-able perks yet, like witch, so you could buy extra glass panes for the witch so s/he could be more OP. Also, the spider should have some more perks, like faster mana or something, as they only have a single perk. For non-buyable perks, again, I will think of some as I play more to see what the new update is like - Dan497 Posted Jul 28, 14 · Last edited Jul 28, 14 Like x 1 x 1 List Undo
__Frost Posts: 145 Cookies: +46 Level 2 LEVEL 2 Untagged users	So many amazing new things Posted Jul 28, 14
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Rhaigo Posts: 8 Cookies: +10 Level 1 LEVEL 1 Untagged users	I would continue working on making current content better or improving upon it. Accessibility, utility, and versatility are very important to me when it comes down to making a game better. We don't really need anything fancy yet - people aren't really asking for big changes - just up-to-date mechanics and things to make the game easier and yet not take away its difficulty, much like the ladders and having builders not be teleported immediately back to the spawn. As for perks, I've always found that knockback is a big issue for monsters. Adding some sort of knockback resistance to some monsters like the Iron Golem or the Giant Zombie in the form of class-specific perks or general perks for all classes would seem viable. It's not too overpowered and it'd make a Golem's life much easier. Also for Silverfish, you should allow them to lay eggs above them; the way it currently is, they have to jump repeatedly to try and lay eggs onto blocks directly above them and sometimes it simply doesn't register. This may in fact be a bug, I'm not sure, but it would make Silverfish more interesting in my opinion. You could also bring back the Birthing Stick for zombies - a perk that, when purchased, gives a chance to spawn with a birthing stick to send little babby zombies into the fray. As per the old Birthing Stick, they'll only be able to spawn one or two - another perk could be added to allow zombies to spawn more babies - but that may be a bit much. Sorry for the wall of text, I really enjoy brainstorming and thinking of new things to add to the game. I chose to stop it here because God knows how much more I would add. Please forgieb me Hedge for making you have to read through all of this. I love you. <3 Posted Jul 28, 14 Like x 2 x 2 List Undo
[Ref] Hedgehogs4Me Revered Posts: 874 Cookies: +746 Level 6 LEVEL 6 Revered	Rhaigo wrote: I would continue working on making current content better or improving upon it. Accessibility, utility, and versatility are very important to me when it comes down to making a game better. We don't really need anything fancy yet - people aren't really asking for big changes - just up-to-date mechanics and things to make the game easier and yet not take away its difficulty, much like the ladders and having builders not be teleported immediately back to the spawn. This makes a lot of sense, but so does the other side. Here are some debate points: - Minecraft's semi-recent Yggdrasil verification probably increases our server bootup time by a factor of a half and spams the console. It's much faster to just ditch a world, reset all variables, and start over without restarting. It may still require a daily restart, but that's not a huge issue if it can be done in the middle of the night. - Big updates can allow for small updates. Remember when we added the book menu? People didn't ask for it, and some even complained (heck, some still complain), but there's no way I could've added all the new features if the options were cluttered around like that. Big restructures allow for better game additions. I'm not saying you're wrong, but it might be more complicated of an issue that you're making it out to be. Rhaigo wrote: As for perks, I've always found that knockback is a big issue for monsters. Adding some sort of knockback resistance to some monsters like the Iron Golem or the Giant Zombie in the form of class-specific perks or general perks for all classes would seem viable. It's not too overpowered and it'd make a Golem's life much easier. Also for Silverfish, you should allow them to lay eggs above them; the way it currently is, they have to jump repeatedly to try and lay eggs onto blocks directly above them and sometimes it simply doesn't register. This may in fact be a bug, I'm not sure, but it would make Silverfish more interesting in my opinion. You could also bring back the Birthing Stick for zombies - a perk that, when purchased, gives a chance to spawn with a birthing stick to send little babby zombies into the fray. As per the old Birthing Stick, they'll only be able to spawn one or two - another perk could be added to allow zombies to spawn more babies - but that may be a bit much. Knockback resistance is an interesting idea. I'll look into it for sure, especially for iron golem. I'm not sure if knockback resistance would be a good thing for giant, though - since it's a mothership mob it might actually be better for it to stay out of the way. Silverfish's range increase allows it to break blocks above it, but you have to understand that it just makes most sense for the dwarves fighting if it breaks below and not above - the silverfish disguise is under 1 block tall! I might look into something that allows silverfish to plant eggs by clicking the block they want to plant eggs in, but using our current code that's harder than it sounds if I don't want to make everything reaaaal messy. I'm definitely not bringing back the birthing stick for regular zombies. It's a giant thing now. If I have too much mothershipping it'll create unnecessary lag, and it also detracts from how special the giant is. Rhaigo wrote: Sorry for the wall of text, I really enjoy brainstorming and thinking of new things to add to the game. I chose to stop it here because God knows how much more I would add. Please forgieb me Hedge for making you have to read through all of this. I love you. <3 Man, I live for these sorts of posts. I much prefer hearing about these sorts of things in a large article format than in a complaining/whiteknighting horde of players format. Keep 'em coming. Posted Jul 28, 14 · OP Like x 1 x 1 List Undo
Dan497 Posts: 615 Cookies: +289 Level 5 LEVEL 5 Untagged users	After playing today so far, here's what I have to say: - The new monster spawn looks nice, but can be broken by monsters, like creeper explosions! This causes monsters to fall to the ground and could cause chaos, please fix it Maybe use bedrock instead which cant be broken. - The new kick/mute/ban GUI for the spectators is almost pointless - its far faster to just type it in chat. (Well that's mine and Nick's opinion) - We could have more disguises as spectators, because if we have the ones we do know, why not add more? (just for fun xD ) - The cows that tailors kill for leather can sometimes spawn in the terrain a bad way, like one game this morning, cows were constantly spawning inside trees that were in their spawn area, and another game where cows spawned on top of huge mushrooms, and couldn't be reached easily. - I have found a glitch - I have no idea if its just client side or affects everyone: When I right click the book/shop, when I then click anything inside, nothing ever works - this happens all the time. But if I left click the book/shop, and then click something inside, everything works fine. If someone could test this out to find if its just client side or not that would be great - Other than those, the additions and changes to DvZ with the 1.8.1 update are fine, but I will try to find more glitches, problems and things to include Looking at Rhaigo's post, I completely agree with the knockback thing - knockback resistance would be great for golems to help them, but we must think carefully - some people could mistake it for hacks. The birthing stick for zombies sounds very OP. I wouldn't approve it. If it were to be introduced, it would have to be pricey with mana. Also, theres no problem with writing too much - lots of good suggestions is good, as hedge can give feedback on them, maybe take them into mind, develop them if needed, and introduce some of them - Dan497 Posted Jul 28, 14 · Last edited Jul 28, 14
[Ref] Hedgehogs4Me Revered Posts: 874 Cookies: +746 Level 6 LEVEL 6 Revered	Dan497 wrote: After playing today so far, here's what I have to say: - The new monster spawn looks nice, but can be broken by monsters, like creeper explosions! This causes monsters to fall to the ground and could cause chaos, please fix it Maybe use bedrock instead which cant be broken. Creeper explosions cannot break it. Silverfish can, though. Dan497 wrote: - The new kick/mute/ban GUI for the spectators is almost pointless - its far faster to just type it in chat. (Well that's mine and Nick's opinion) The kick options are better than typing it out, and I prefer that you use them. It contains a pretyped message that warns people not to do it again or they'll face [insert punishment here]. The ban and mute options contain all the times - if you aren't sure exactly how long to ban someone for, they're very useful. Dan497 wrote: - We could have more disguises as spectators, because if we have the ones we do know, why not add more? (just for fun xD ) You have 8 (well, 7, but once I give you an extra permission it'll be . Is that not enough? D: Dan497 wrote: - The cows that tailors kill for leather can sometimes spawn in the terrain a bad way, like one game this morning, cows were constantly spawning inside trees that were in their spawn area, and another game where cows spawned on top of huge mushrooms, and couldn't be reached easily. Anyone should be able to cut down trees and huge mushrooms in the farm and in the mines. If they spawn inside blocks, they'll just die and spawn again somewhere else. I don't see what the big deal is. I could maybe use the anti-suffocation code on them, but that might just result in them going outside the fort instead. What do you suggest instead? Dan497 wrote: - I have found a glitch - I have no idea if its just client side or affects everyone: When I right click the book/shop, when I then click anything inside, nothing ever works - this happens all the time. But if I left click the book/shop, and then click something inside, everything works fine. If someone could test this out to find if its just client side or not that would be great Seems unlikely, but I'll test it. I suppose it could happen if the Inventory Menu API was written by a dummy. Posted Jul 28, 14 · OP
Dan497 Posts: 615 Cookies: +289 Level 5 LEVEL 5 Untagged users	I had no idea about the GUI think because I didn't really test it... ._. With the monster spawn, I did know that silverfish could destroy it - someone actually told me creepers could. Seems they were wrong :/ The cow thing was just annoying me and I dont get axe as tailor -- it just a bit of time wasting to chop down a few huge 2x2 spruces to release half the cows so I can kill them. There are quite a few tailors killing cows, so with half the cows stuck in trees and the fact it would take time to chop those down, it gets annoying. Not a huge problem, really, though. Thanks for the replies - Dan497 Posted Jul 29, 14
[Ref] Hedgehogs4Me Revered Posts: 874 Cookies: +746 Level 6 LEVEL 6 Revered	Should tailors get axes like knights do? Posted Jul 29, 14 · OP

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