advanced farming challenges


Poco_88 Posts: 28 Cookies: +8 LEVEL 0 Untagged users	I've been thinking it might be nice to add a couple high-volume farming challenges for those of us who spend tons of time just trying to empty our farms. Getting kicked for spam a dozen times a day isn't a lot of fun either. I don't suggest epic rewards, just a faster way to do bulk turn-ins. Even a smaller physical reward would be good as long as the exp and currency rewards stay comparable. I don't mean to criticize the existing challenges, they're great at low levels, they just become a grueling spam-fest for more advanced players. I also suggest they go in the overkill category so they don't become a stumbling block for someone trying to blast through the challenges - they would be a huge hurdle for someone who doesn't have big farms. Putting it in the overkill section makes it available to advanced farmers but also not required for challenge level progress. cactus /c cactusfarmer currently takes 1 stack of cactus and gives 10 sand, 10 exp, 5 currency for each repeated turn-in A full inventory is 36 stacks, but 35 is a better number if it's going to be spammed because the rewards will end up taking up a space as well. 35 cactusfarmer turn-ins will give 350 sand, 350 exp, 175 currency. I suggest replacing the sand with something stackable and less annoying than the mountain of sand that cactusfarmer is currently giving. 1 diamond is a decent price for 350 sand I think. 1 emerald would do if people think it should be less of a reward. Personally, I do it for the levels and the currency and hate all the sand i end up with. I think it's a very useful challenge until you encase your island in glass, after that it's annoying. /c bulkcactus could take 35 stacks of cactus and give 1 diamond, 350 exp, 175 currency. melon /c melonfarmer currently takes 2 stacks of melon and gives 2 dirt, 10 exp, 5 currency for each repeated turn-in 35 stacks is equal to 7.5 turn-ins which equals 36 dirt, 175 exp, 87.5 currency. Note that dirt sells in the nether shop for 50 currency each but 175 exp and 1887.5 (36 x 50 + 87.5) currency for a bulkmelon seems excessive since that's more than the value of 6 diamond ore /c bulkmelon could take 35 stacks of melon and give 1 diamond, 175 exp, 85 currency sugar /c sugarfarmer currently takes 1 stack of sugar and gives 2 clay blocks, 10 exp, 5 currency for each repeated turn-in 35 sugarfarmer turn-ins will give 70 clay blocks, 350 exp, 175 currency. Note that clay blocks sell for $25 at the nether shop but again $1925 (70 x 25 +175) seems excessive when that's more than 6 diamond ore /c bulksugar could take 35 stacks of sugarcane (refining it into sugar is really annoying in bulk) and give 1 diamond, 350 exp, 175 currency. seeds there is a thread about this already but thought it should be mentioned here to show the possible consistency /c bulkseeds could take 35 stacks of seeds and give some reward (I defer to the other thread to determine the appropriate reward) Posted Jan 20, 15 · OP Like x 1 x 1 List Undo
Baeovid Posts: 195 Cookies: +73 Level 3 LEVEL 3 Untagged users	I agree with this 100% Posted Jan 20, 15
xShay Posts: 727 Cookies: +813 Level 7 LEVEL 7 Untagged users	You can't change sugarfarmer. The clay is needed for flowerpots to do the slime challenge. bulkcactus for the diamond is silly. It's the same as cactusfarmer 35 times. And the same goes for all the other bulk challenges. The rewards don't need to change. They just need to be multiplied by 35 so it can be all done at once. But if you want to do it that way. Then it would probably be made so that you wouldn't get the full amount of cash. So, you would probably get 300 instead of 350. This is basically a "Punishment" for selling in bulk. It happened on factions. People (I swear I didn't spend over 100 hours afk to grind $500,000 to buy duke...) would gather stacks of beef/pork/chicken/fish and sell it at the VIP shop. It was something like 8 for $40, it then got reduced to something like $20 and then another sign was added to sell it in bulk instead of spamming the sign for ages. However, selling in bulk would minus 20% of what you would recieve from individually selling it. So yeah. Bulk challenges don't need better rewards, if anything, it will be worse, as you're doing it quicker and not spending as much time to process the challenges. c: Posted Jan 21, 15
[M] Noveva Posts: 106 Cookies: +51 Level 3 LEVEL 3	I like the idea of this like 99% but like how Mullet said, i don't think the bulk challenge need better rewards. Posted Jan 21, 15
OcelotTamer Posts: 46 Cookies: +27 Level 2 LEVEL 2 Untagged users	xShay wrote: You can't change sugarfarmer. The clay is needed for flowerpots to do the slime challenge. As I understand the original post, it's not trying to change the challenges. It is a suggestion to add new challenges that are similar to challenges already in existence, only on a larger scale. xShay wrote: bulkcactus for the diamond is silly. It's the same as cactusfarmer 35 times. And the same goes for all the other bulk challenges. The rewards don't need to change. They just need to be multiplied by 35 so it can be all done at once. Honestly, if you can get 35 stacks of a particular farmed item, you probably don't need the block given by the challenge. A diamond might be too good a reward, but you can just take the money and buy diamond ore from the nether shop, so it should be fine. xShay wrote: Then it would probably be made so that you wouldn't get the full amount of cash. So, you would probably get 300 instead of 350. I agree with this. Bulk should be slightly less of a reward. I hope this helped! What greater gift than the love of a cat? - Charles Dickens There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: Music and Cats. - Albert Schweitzer Credo ut Intellegam - I Believe that I might understand Contra factum non valet illatio - An inference is of no value against a fact Posted Jan 21, 15
xShay Posts: 727 Cookies: +813 Level 7 LEVEL 7 Untagged users	You will always need sand in your life. c: Posted Jan 21, 15
Poco_88 Posts: 28 Cookies: +8 LEVEL 0 Untagged users	I don't want to change any existing challenge, they're all fine. I was just hoping to add a bulk option at the overkill level I agree with with ocelot and others that the bulk turn-in should give less of a reward but honestly i thought 1 dia was worth less than 350 sand, 70 clay or 36 dirt. With dia ore being worth $300 in the nether shop where the value of 70 clay is $1,750 and 35 dirt is $1,800 Make it an emerald, or even a seed for all i care. Spending 2 hours clearing out my farms for mountains of mats i don't want makes me want to play elsewhere. we have the new /c finish and it won't be possible without creative mode or a decade of spamming the easy challenges. I think an bulk option is the way to go Posted Jan 21, 15 · OP · Last edited Jan 21, 15
pokechu22 Posts: 456 Cookies: +267 Level 5 LEVEL 5 Untagged users	There's already the command that I wrote that lets you do challenges multiple times at once: /multichallenge <count> <name>. So for instance: /multichallenge 36 cactusfarmer. I think that would be better that creating new challenges (and the code is already written; I just have other parts of the plugin to finish). Plus, it means we don't need to create "bulk" varieties of every single challenge. The one thing I would end up having to change is making it give less of the item (though IMO I don't feel like that would be a good change). Helper on the Mojang bug tracker (and member of the #jira-helpers Mojang slack channel), maintainer of the World Downloader mod, and one of the people working on the Minecraft Protocol Documentation (among other things). Posted Jan 21, 15 Like x 1 x 1 List Undo
Poco_88 Posts: 28 Cookies: +8 LEVEL 0 Untagged users	I just emptied my cactus farm yesterday and looked at it just now. the bottom of the rig is a series of hoppers and doublechests and i currently have 14 hoppers and 13 doublechests filled with cactus. That's over 770 stacks which would give 7,700 sand. that's a lot of sand. every day. it would also need to be tossed out between each multichallenge turn-in. I would never suggest bulk varieties of every challenge, just the 3 above and possibly the seeds challenge mentioned elsewhere. I also never heard of the multichallenge turn-in until just now - it may currently be a light hidden under a basket. I would not want to give Poke a headache, I think he's absolutely amazing and I appreciate his efforts immensely. =] Posted Jan 21, 15 · OP

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